Episode 11

John-Edward Heath from Foster Care to Professional Adaptive Athlete

John-Edward Heath has gone from being in foster care as a young boy to a professional adaptive athlete.

He faced many tough experiences as he was growing up. One of the most challenging decisions that he ever had to make was to ASK, and fight, for doctors to cut his leg off.

Can you imagine fighting the system because you know having your leg removed is going to give you more life? Wow!

This man has the mindset of a warrior and never allowed himself to fall into the victim mindset. What he's doing with his life now as an adaptive athlete, motivational speaker, and advocate for men's mental health is honorable.

John-Edward Heath takes us on quite a journey in this podcast episode. I really enjoyed having this conversation with him, and I'm happy to be able to share it with you.

Transcript
[Coach D]:

Hey, what's going on gentlemen? Welcome to another episode of the Committed Man podcast.

[Coach D]:

And I'm super excited today. I got my new friend, John Edward Heath on the episode.

[Coach D]:

John, how you doing, man?

[John-Edward Heath]:

Well, brother, thank you for having me. I'm excited to unpack some things

[John-Edward Heath]:

with you.

[Coach D]:

Yeah, for sure. We've had a couple of conversations. Our last one was really good.

[Coach D]:

You were on your drive on the way to Florida, doing all these amazing things

[Coach D]:

you're doing. But the most intriguing thing to me was when you, you know, we saw

[Coach D]:

each other at Collective and kind of in passing, hey, what's going on? And then

[Coach D]:

later on you came back around and you're like, hey, I heard you do this thing.

[Coach D]:

And we got into a little conversation there. And that was, there was something at

[Coach D]:

that moment that I knew we would be talking more later on. And now here we are

[Coach D]:

with this. So yeah, man. You know, in our last conversation, you said something

[Coach D]:

that really caught my interest. And that was that you from Iceland, you're Icelandic.

[Coach D]:

So yeah, give me tell me about that. Like you were born in Iceland and how long

[Coach D]:

were you there?

[John-Edward Heath]:

No,

[Coach D]:

No.

[John-Edward Heath]:

no, no. So the backstory on, so there's a lot that goes into, I've never,

[John-Edward Heath]:

when people ask me where I'm from, especially in the States, listen

[John-Edward Heath]:

Donovan, I've lived, I lived in California for 10 years. I've lived

[John-Edward Heath]:

in the South, I've lived in the Midwest, I've lived in the East Coast,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I grew up in the East Coast. And then I left, I lived in Europe and Iceland

[John-Edward Heath]:

became my home, man, Iceland. Iceland was my version of redefining yourself,

[John-Edward Heath]:

of who I was going to be. There's a lot that happened in my lifetime.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I really didn't know who John Edward Heath was going to be outside of

[John-Edward Heath]:

service, outside of coaching, outside of no longer having a limb. And then

[John-Edward Heath]:

COVID happened. So it just, there's, Iceland's my home. There's, I have

[John-Edward Heath]:

family there, what everybody needs to understand about me as a person, I

[John-Edward Heath]:

have homes and families all over the place. That is just to let you

[John-Edward Heath]:

know, like a lot of people have helped me develop, and I didn't know that

[John-Edward Heath]:

until now that I'm in this path that I'm in where it's like, even if it

[John-Edward Heath]:

was letting me stay on your couch for one day, like that helped develop

[John-Edward Heath]:

the man that I am today.

[Coach D]:

really powerful man. So tell me, give me some history through all this moving

[Coach D]:

and all the things you did. What were some of the constants as like hobbies

[Coach D]:

and things that had your interest as you were growing?

[John-Edward Heath]:

So you know what's crazy that you asked that? I try to really emphasize

[John-Edward Heath]:

this. I didn't play sports as a kid. So the fact that I'm a professional

[John-Edward Heath]:

athlete competing at the highest level in multiple sports lets you know,

[John-Edward Heath]:

like, I think that is a uniqueness and what I think people should really

[John-Edward Heath]:

focus on my story because every other person, my best friends, all in

[John-Edward Heath]:

the NFL, they've been playing football since they were four. You know, and

[John-Edward Heath]:

then you go to peewees and you play in elementary school, you play

[John-Edward Heath]:

in a league, you play flag football, you go to middle school, you go to

[John-Edward Heath]:

high school. And then the dream is division one football. Then the dream

[John-Edward Heath]:

is the NFL and the same goes for every other sport. For me, unfortunately,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I didn't really, I really didn't have hobbies, man. I, I honestly, as

[John-Edward Heath]:

a kid, I, there was a lot of, a lot of stuff that I needed to figure

[John-Edward Heath]:

out as a child. I bounced around from homes. If you've read and you know,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I was a product of social services. And I was, but the crazy thing about

[John-Edward Heath]:

it was that I was, I know who my biological parents are. I lived with

[John-Edward Heath]:

them. I dealt with a lot of trauma and abuse, like actual trauma and

[John-Edward Heath]:

abuse by them, which finally the system was like, all right, now the 13th

[John-Edward Heath]:

time is when we're gonna remove you from the home, right? And that's

[John-Edward Heath]:

what happened. So as a kid, honestly, I just really, I've always been

[John-Edward Heath]:

a people person. So for me as a child, I just really loved being around

[John-Edward Heath]:

whoever was in my life in that season. That's honestly what my hobby

[John-Edward Heath]:

was and whether it was going to the club or going to eat some pizza,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I was a hooligan man. We stayed up plenty of late nights and sleeping

[John-Edward Heath]:

on benches and stuff.

[Coach D]:

It's interesting to hear you say that because, you know, and we don't have to

[Coach D]:

go too deep into the things that happened, but as these things were happening,

[Coach D]:

were there shifts in your mindset and your personality that you could feel going

[Coach D]:

on? Like you said, like, OK, 13th time, we're going to remove you. Like, what

[Coach D]:

was that doing to your mind as this stuff was happening?

[John-Edward Heath]:

Honestly, I will tell you, right now at 32 years old, this is why I believe

[John-Edward Heath]:

in God and why I believe in the universe. In these moments, I never

[John-Edward Heath]:

really fell into the poor me mentality. So as these things were going,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I just, the hustle mentality, and I grew up in a very like gang heavy place,

[John-Edward Heath]:

it was just, this is what's happening, what's the next step, right? So

[John-Edward Heath]:

my entire childhood until I was 17 years old, that's what it was. It

[John-Edward Heath]:

was like, oh. biological mom's drunk, you know, she's on drugs. She's

[John-Edward Heath]:

looks like I gotta, you know, you're gonna deal with this or you just

[John-Edward Heath]:

already knew what was coming. So now that I'm an adult, I realized that at

[John-Edward Heath]:

these moments it was like, I started to see, I was very mature for my

[John-Edward Heath]:

age. I've always been like the older parents of groups. I just, I had

[John-Edward Heath]:

to move a different way than everybody else. And, and I just, you don't

[John-Edward Heath]:

know what you don't know. So at the moment, this is all that is provided

[John-Edward Heath]:

for me. I didn't know any better and then boom, I served, you know, I

[John-Edward Heath]:

enlisted. I left at 17. At 18 years old, I'm in California. I had never

[John-Edward Heath]:

been to that side of the country by myself. And you just took me from

[John-Edward Heath]:

the DMV, which is literally the right side of the country all the way to

[John-Edward Heath]:

the left. And at that point, you're throwing the wolves, man. You got to

[John-Edward Heath]:

figure it out.

[Coach D]:

So what made you decide to go into the military?

[John-Edward Heath]:

The recruiters were very persistent. And when I tell you that a lot

[John-Edward Heath]:

of people have seen things in me that I've never really seen in myself,

[John-Edward Heath]:

they were a big factor because they said, like, there's something

[John-Edward Heath]:

in you that we know is destined for something bigger. And they were

[John-Edward Heath]:

the parent figures at the moment that ensured I wasn't skipping school.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And it gave me a sense of purpose to finish school, because I had

[John-Edward Heath]:

gotten kicked out of. three high schools. So I was, my freshman and sophomore

[John-Edward Heath]:

year, I was transitioning from schools and I was kicked out of a district

[John-Edward Heath]:

and I was supposed to be a high school dropout. And at that point, when

[John-Edward Heath]:

I was set, when I decided to enlist, thought I would change my life,

[John-Edward Heath]:

man. I was like a year and a half behind school. I remember doing

[John-Edward Heath]:

all seven periods, night school, Saturday school, summer school, while

[John-Edward Heath]:

losing weight to join the service, like. And it was what you had to do.

[Coach D]:

Yeah. All right. So, all right, you go through that, right? There's already, you

[Coach D]:

can start to see some mindset traits that are there, even if you didn't see them

[Coach D]:

at the time, right, the willingness to, okay, I gotta grind and get this thing

[Coach D]:

done in this short amount of time because I have a goal that I'm going after.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Right.

[Coach D]:

Of course you were being held accountable, which was fine, but something in you had to

[Coach D]:

do something about it. Then you get into the military. Give me a little bit about

[Coach D]:

your experience of, again, the mental game, right? What did being in the military

[Coach D]:

do for you as far as your personal growth in your mind?

[John-Edward Heath]:

I gotta thank the military for, I thrive best in controlled chaos. That's

[John-Edward Heath]:

not something that you develop, that's something that is taught. I

[John-Edward Heath]:

gotta give thanks to the military for giving me a level of controlling

[John-Edward Heath]:

yourself in fear, controlling yourself in situations that you just will never

[John-Edward Heath]:

really be in yourself. You're talking to a kid who grew up in D.C.

[John-Edward Heath]:

and Maryland and all of a sudden I'm on a 30 foot jump for a pool,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you know, to learn swim call. Didn't do that. I never shot a rifle

[John-Edward Heath]:

as a child. Right. Um, so you're, you're put into this element where

[John-Edward Heath]:

it's you, it's either sink or swim. I, that prolonged in my time, except

[John-Edward Heath]:

for I was 17 years old and now I'm, now I'm on my own and I, I've

[John-Edward Heath]:

been partying since I was 13, 14 years old. I was, you know, heavy in

[John-Edward Heath]:

the club scene. Now I'm in this alcoholic seems normal culture. So

[John-Edward Heath]:

now I'm a high functioning alcoholic because I am getting messed up and

[John-Edward Heath]:

then I'm performing at high levels to run certain, you know, physical

[John-Edward Heath]:

fitness tests and stuff like that. So it's, it's a mixture of, of mentalities

[John-Edward Heath]:

and you know, there are good and bad things just like in everything

[John-Edward Heath]:

else, but the biggest takeaway that I will answer your question is the fact

[John-Edward Heath]:

that. My discipline as a professional athlete is on a whole different

[John-Edward Heath]:

level because of my military discipline. So when I say no is no, like I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

not going out to party. I'm not like, I know what the mission is. I

[John-Edward Heath]:

know what the goal is. There's no distraction right now. And I got

[John-Edward Heath]:

to thank the military for that.

[Coach D]:

Man, so that thing you talked about, the distraction, I feel, I talk about this

[Coach D]:

with the community man a lot. I feel like it's man's greatest villain right now.

[Coach D]:

And it comes in so many different ways, a lot of them very subtle, some bluntly

[Coach D]:

obvious right in our face, and still it's easy to fall into these distractions.

[Coach D]:

So I'm glad that you brought that up, that there has to be this hard stop on

[Coach D]:

what you allow in and what you don't, because everything is affecting your path,

[Coach D]:

right? So speaking of path, So you get out of the military, what's life like as

[Coach D]:

soon as you get out of the military? What do you do next?

[John-Edward Heath]:

I go into this dark hole of drugs and alcohol.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And in the midst of that, my best friend committed suicide in 2018. So

[John-Edward Heath]:

that played a role into this dark. But here's the thing is that everybody

[John-Edward Heath]:

in the military tells you it's okay. It's okay to get messed up seven

[John-Edward Heath]:

days out of the week. It's okay as a man to, you know, go to the club

[John-Edward Heath]:

on Thursday and show up to work on Friday hungover, right? So nobody

[John-Edward Heath]:

really corrected me until. My best friend, and she's like my older sister,

[John-Edward Heath]:

man, her name's Lauren, there was a situation that could have put me

[John-Edward Heath]:

in jail, and that was my waking point. But also during COVID, I lost

[John-Edward Heath]:

my significant other to suicide. So I've lost two people, you know,

[John-Edward Heath]:

and now what people don't really take into consideration, my amputation

[John-Edward Heath]:

was military malpractice. So now I'm forced to walk away from the military

[John-Edward Heath]:

for multiple other reasons, but one of them is military bowel practice

[John-Edward Heath]:

that leads up to an amputation. I saw how my best friend's death was treated

[John-Edward Heath]:

and it put me into perspective where I was like, wow, if I was the one who

[John-Edward Heath]:

would have committed suicide, would you have treated me even worse than what

[John-Edward Heath]:

you're treating his death, right? Because suicide is seen as being a coward,

[John-Edward Heath]:

whether it's in religion or whether it's being a man or whether it's

[John-Edward Heath]:

being societal. Suicide is seen as a weakness. It's seen as being a

[John-Edward Heath]:

coward. I studied psychology, man I went from being a high school dropout

[John-Edward Heath]:

to you know, having a bachelor's in Psychology because I was losing so many

[John-Edward Heath]:

people So outside of the military who was I didn't know I became this

[John-Edward Heath]:

frat boy I became this I'm from a town in Maryland that Alcoholism

[John-Edward Heath]:

just like the military is praised right because nobody looks at you

[John-Edward Heath]:

different when you drink. But if it's a different drug, heaven forbid,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you know, I mentioned to you, like, I love using this analogy. Nobody

[John-Edward Heath]:

freaks out when I say like, Oh, yeah, I don't do heroin. I don't do crack.

[John-Edward Heath]:

But people bug out when I'm like, Oh, I don't drink. What do you mean

[John-Edward Heath]:

you don't drink? I forgot I just told you I don't drink. Like, why do

[John-Edward Heath]:

I need to explain myself to you? Like, I don't drink. I don't like to

[John-Edward Heath]:

feel shitty the following day. You know,

[Coach D]:

Yeah.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I have a I have a list of things to do. that it's not a priority.

[John-Edward Heath]:

So I honestly, I spent a lot of time figuring out who I was and I

[John-Edward Heath]:

thought, I knew who I was. I thought I got out and I thought I developed

[John-Edward Heath]:

this person, but in reality it was false healing.

[Coach D]:

Mm-hmm. Tell me more about that. Why false healing? How do you recognize that

[Coach D]:

and what does that mean?

[John-Edward Heath]:

because as men, we don't really unpack what we have going on. I was

[John-Edward Heath]:

like, this and this and this and this happened. Now I'm doing this,

[John-Edward Heath]:

this and this. But did we ever talk about or seek help for all these

[John-Edward Heath]:

things that you underwent, right? There's still things that I'm dealing

[John-Edward Heath]:

with. Right now is my healing period and my healing period hurts. And excuse

[John-Edward Heath]:

my language, it hurts like a motherfucker because I never talked about

[John-Edward Heath]:

my child. I never talked about being a man who's been molested and sexually

[John-Edward Heath]:

assaulted, right? I've never talked about never really having a sense

[John-Edward Heath]:

of belonging. Why? It started since I was a child. So these are things that,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you know what? Oh, no, man, I'm tough. I joined the military. I served

[John-Edward Heath]:

10 years. Now I'm a professional athlete. And you can't tell me that that's

[John-Edward Heath]:

not true strength. And I think that that's what's being portrayed.

[John-Edward Heath]:

The average person, man these days feels that. to be strong, you have

[John-Edward Heath]:

to be the David Goggins and the Jaco in your face, stupid ice bats

[John-Edward Heath]:

at four in the morning, disrespecting women by calling them out of

[John-Edward Heath]:

their names or whatever the case may be. I feel like that's what's

[John-Edward Heath]:

being portrayed. For me, I'm on a different wavelength. Now I'm being

[John-Edward Heath]:

honest about how I feel. Now I'm like, all right, is this gonna benefit

[John-Edward Heath]:

my mental health? There's a lot of things that I will not do to jeopardize

[John-Edward Heath]:

my mental health.

[Coach D]:

really powerful because there's a question that I asked that started to change

[Coach D]:

my life a little bit, right? Actually a lot because everything revolves around this

[Coach D]:

question like, am what the action I'm about to take, or the behavior I'm about

[Coach D]:

to engage in, or the habit I'm about to create, does this contribute to the greatest

[Coach D]:

version of the man I see myself becoming, right? And if it doesn't, the answer is automatically

[Coach D]:

no, there's no if, ands or buts about it. that doesn't serve what I want, right?

[Coach D]:

So I've learned over time, like this discipline of, the answer is just no, hard

[Coach D]:

stop, no. And that becomes unreasonable to a lot of people. So why, like what made

[Coach D]:

you find that in yourself? Like there's these hard stop, no, these boundaries that

[Coach D]:

just don't get crossed.

[John-Edward Heath]:

That's a very good question. I will tell you, society makes it hard for

[John-Edward Heath]:

men to say no, because we're supposed to fit this, there's a list

[John-Edward Heath]:

of things that tells you what it is to be a man, right? Like, but for

[John-Edward Heath]:

me, what you need to know is the person I was in the military, I'm not

[John-Edward Heath]:

proud of. I was very toxic. I was very, you know, I lied about a lot of

[John-Edward Heath]:

things. I disrespected people. I disrespected my partners. I built

[John-Edward Heath]:

this... what I thought being a strong man was, right? This buff, strong,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you never saw me cry. In order for me to heal and push forward, I really

[John-Edward Heath]:

needed to look that old person in the face. And the biggest struggle

[John-Edward Heath]:

that I have right now is, is I, there's certain things that I, I try

[John-Edward Heath]:

my hardest to forgive myself for. And as humans, we tend to live too much

[John-Edward Heath]:

in the past. And I have that issue in my mind where it's like, you

[John-Edward Heath]:

start to think of things that you did in the past or the person you

[John-Edward Heath]:

were in the past that doesn't allow you to live in the present moment. So

[John-Edward Heath]:

for me, the big switch was watching my best friend die and everybody

[John-Edward Heath]:

said they would remember him. And the day after he died, everyone forgot.

[John-Edward Heath]:

So why am I going to sit here and try to impress people by what I wear

[John-Edward Heath]:

or how I act or which shoes I wear? Right? Or what clothes I put on or

[John-Edward Heath]:

how much money I make. And then fast forward. I lost my partner to

[John-Edward Heath]:

suicide and I witnessed the exact same thing. So there were certain

[John-Edward Heath]:

things that really aligned into, okay, these are the directions that I

[John-Edward Heath]:

need to head, which is why I will not argue or really need to tell

[John-Edward Heath]:

anyone why I believe in God and why I believe in a higher purpose.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Because if I could easily, everything that I'm telling you that I've done

[John-Edward Heath]:

and I've been and I've witnessed, I should not be where I'm at right

[John-Edward Heath]:

now. And I have every right in the book to sit here and be like, well,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you know, I'm disabled, I am not going to compete in Paralympic sprinting

[John-Edward Heath]:

or adaptive crossfit or try to make a winter games for the Paralympics

[John-Edward Heath]:

or do a third of the things that I do, but I think, especially men, I think

[John-Edward Heath]:

people, but especially men need to hear these things because to go

[John-Edward Heath]:

back to what I just said, we're being told how to act. We're being told.

[John-Edward Heath]:

what portrays a man, but then now everybody, right? What do women say?

[John-Edward Heath]:

Men ain't shit. That's all you see on social media. Oh, if you don't

[John-Edward Heath]:

make six figures and above, that ain't the kind of man that I need. What

[John-Edward Heath]:

do you bring to the table? Because I'm gonna tell you right now, the average

[John-Edward Heath]:

woman right now cannot out cook me in the kitchen. So let's really

[Coach D]:

Yeah.

[John-Edward Heath]:

dive down into what it is that you bring to the table. And Drake said

[John-Edward Heath]:

it best, man, you gotta be some type of person to make me not wanna

[John-Edward Heath]:

go to sleep at nine o'clock. because I'm in a profession right now where

[John-Edward Heath]:

my time is valuable, my career is number one, sleep is priority, my

[John-Edward Heath]:

nutrition is priority. So if you think that I'm 21 years old and I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

going to be texting you at three in the morning talking about sneaky

[John-Edward Heath]:

link, whatever, you got the wrong one, man. We are grown

[Coach D]:

Mmm.

[John-Edward Heath]:

ass people. If we're going to do some stuff, it better be before nine

[John-Edward Heath]:

o'clock, right? So all

[Coach D]:

Yo,

[John-Edward Heath]:

these

[Coach D]:

it's

[John-Edward Heath]:

factors,

[Coach D]:

looking for the bed.

[John-Edward Heath]:

you know what I'm saying? So all these factors play a role into what

[John-Edward Heath]:

I do. To be quite honest with you, don't have nobody checked on me,

[John-Edward Heath]:

man. Nobody checked on me when I got out of the military. Nobody checked

[John-Edward Heath]:

on me when I lost my leg. I've had 14 surgeries. Where were all the people

[John-Edward Heath]:

at when John had the tab and I was swiping my credit card, right? And

[John-Edward Heath]:

we were down in downtown San Diego. Everybody knew who I was, right?

[John-Edward Heath]:

And you knew the girls were always around John and you knew your boy

[John-Edward Heath]:

was always gonna hook you up with a meal or you knew where were all those

[John-Edward Heath]:

people at. And the same thing happened in my childhood when I would

[John-Edward Heath]:

get in trouble, right? Like where was y'all at? Y'all was there when

[John-Edward Heath]:

I got the table with the bottle, right? Y'all was there when I got you

[John-Edward Heath]:

in VIP. Where y'all at now? So as a 32 year old man, I'm not afraid

[John-Edward Heath]:

to be alone, man. I understand humans work in community and groups and whatever

[John-Edward Heath]:

the case may be. And I love, I am part of plenty of men's groups.

[John-Edward Heath]:

But if you wanna ask me who I talk to on a daily basis, it's the five

[John-Edward Heath]:

people I got pinned on my text messages. Those are the five people

[John-Edward Heath]:

I text on a daily basis. And if I text someone out of there and they

[John-Edward Heath]:

don't respond, I don't even allow it to affect me because you're not

[John-Edward Heath]:

that person in my circle.

[Coach D]:

Yeah.

[John-Edward Heath]:

So all of those factors played a role into how and what I'm living

[John-Edward Heath]:

right now. That just really doesn't allow me to act out a character.

[Coach D]:

I love this. It sounds like you have these boundaries that are set that are healthy

[Coach D]:

for you, especially in the season of healing that you're in. It's really important

[John-Edward Heath]:

in the next

[Coach D]:

to

[John-Edward Heath]:

video.

[Coach D]:

be able to have things not crowd your space that are unnecessary. And so I applaud

[Coach D]:

you for having those boundaries set. And you've mentioned a few times about this,

[Coach D]:

this amputation, and I don't want to harp on this because I know that you are

[Coach D]:

not defined by this. It actually

[John-Edward Heath]:

Yeah.

[Coach D]:

made you exactly who you are today. And you needed that moment. So, but you know,

[Coach D]:

the audience is going to wonder this amputation. How did the amputation happen?

[Coach D]:

14 surgeries, just run us through this timeline.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Okay, but first I'm gonna ask you what was your impression when you first

[John-Edward Heath]:

saw me at the gym?

[Coach D]:

I was impressed. Let me tell

[John-Edward Heath]:

Ha

[Coach D]:

you

[John-Edward Heath]:

ha!

[Coach D]:

what I saw first. What I saw first, I went to go sit down in the break room area

[Coach D]:

and I got my man's leg sitting right here and his bag, but nobody's around. I'm

[Coach D]:

sitting there, there's a leg here, there's a bag, and I'm like, all right, I understand

[Coach D]:

what's going on here. I wanna meet this guy. That's actually what I thought in

[Coach D]:

my mind, I wanna meet this guy. And then we came walking past each other, I'm like,

[Coach D]:

dude, what's up? I told you, I think I've seen your videos, you keep working hard.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Coach D]:

So we passed each other and then you know, you circled back around later on.

[Coach D]:

So I was like, yeah, this is, I'm inspired. And I'm more inspired knowing what

[Coach D]:

I know now. So that's why I want you to share what you can to get people to

[Coach D]:

this point where you're at this non-victim mentality.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Yeah, no, I appreciate you asking and it does get repetitive. However,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I'm gonna just give you the condensed version. I got into an accident.

[John-Edward Heath]:

The military tried to repair it. It wasn't the accident. That's I need the,

[John-Edward Heath]:

like I wish the media would understand that it's not the accident that

[John-Edward Heath]:

caused my amputation. It was military medicine trying to repair my lower

[John-Edward Heath]:

body. And it was like, it was just too many surgeries. that by the

[John-Edward Heath]:

time I was, by the time it was time for me to leave the service, I

[John-Edward Heath]:

was already jacked up. And I had asked for an amputation at 28 before

[John-Edward Heath]:

I got out of the military because my biggest fear was to come to the

[John-Edward Heath]:

civilian world and have to deal with this injury. Because here's the

[John-Edward Heath]:

thing, in 2018, 19 and 2020, you would have met me, you would not

[John-Edward Heath]:

have watched me move the way that I move now. I was by definition disabled.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I had a lower extremity salvage. I had a, I had drop foot, I had an

[John-Edward Heath]:

Achilles replacement, I had bone marrow transfusions, I had cartilage

[John-Edward Heath]:

replacement, dude, you name it. Like I had, I had cadaver, like, and

[John-Edward Heath]:

it was just, it was, they tried repairing it, it did not work, I wore

[John-Edward Heath]:

a surgical halo, cotton infection, healed from it, went in, and then

[John-Edward Heath]:

when COVID happened, I was put on pause, fast forward, past COVID,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I went back into the hospital, I said, hey, listen, I know the world just

[John-Edward Heath]:

stopped, I got it. but we got to pick this back up. And they wanted

[John-Edward Heath]:

to do a 13th lower extremity reconstruction surgery. I wasn't gonna do that.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And they were against it. You can't just go into medical and be like,

[John-Edward Heath]:

hey, chop my leg off. It's not that easy. It's a lot political than that.

[John-Edward Heath]:

So I was angry and I called a lot of people and they told me, you know,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you gotta advocate for yourself. So I felt God was with me in this

[John-Edward Heath]:

one, man. because I walked in and I held my ground and I was vocal about

[John-Edward Heath]:

what I needed to be vocal about. And then she was like, this is what

[John-Edward Heath]:

you want. And I stand to this and I can call her and ask her. I said,

[John-Edward Heath]:

if and when this happens and you see me on TV for some sort of sport,

[John-Edward Heath]:

remember we had this conversation.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And now two years deep into an amputation, here we are.

[Coach D]:

All right, so let's talk about where we are because this is where the story just

[Coach D]:

gets crazy. And this

[John-Edward Heath]:

Right.

[Coach D]:

is the mindset part that I want everybody to pay attention, who's listening to this,

[Coach D]:

pay attention to how mindset affects every part of your life when you open up and

[Coach D]:

receive what it's bringing you, right? So, all right, so you told this lady this,

[Coach D]:

all right? You have the amputation and then you get out, what is your first, like

[Coach D]:

what's your mission when you get out of this amputation? Like what do you set

[Coach D]:

out to do?

[John-Edward Heath]:

Biggest mission was to get back into sports. I was an Olympic weightlifter.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I've always been a weightlifter, man. Listen, I will send you a picture. I was

[John-Edward Heath]:

275, 12% body fat in the military. I was a big

[Coach D]:

E-Jet. Jet!

[John-Edward Heath]:

boy. Like my traps, and it's crazy, right? So when people like look

[John-Edward Heath]:

at me now, and they're like, wow, you're a big dude. I'm like, I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

small right now. I just wanted to get back into sport, man. And again,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I'm gonna keep relying, I'm gonna keep using God as an example, because

[John-Edward Heath]:

the people that God put around me, it was, dude, it was way too orchestrated

[John-Edward Heath]:

for it not to happen the way it did. The person who took me to my amputation

[John-Edward Heath]:

is Olympian and wide receiver for the Eagles, Devon Allen. That's the man

[John-Edward Heath]:

who sat with me in my amputation. That's my best friend. Like that is, that is

[John-Edward Heath]:

the man who saw me. He moved to Maryland training for Paris or for

[John-Edward Heath]:

Tokyo. saw a guy with a prosthetic, I wore a different prosthetic when

[John-Edward Heath]:

I had a salvaged limb, and then next thing you know, him and I are

[John-Edward Heath]:

training and got stuck together during COVID, we're running on the

[John-Edward Heath]:

track. And I remember one day, dude, I called him, picked him up in one

[John-Edward Heath]:

of my like drunk, you know, drug episodes, and I was crying, man. And I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

like, I just wanna, you know, compete. And he's like, well, why don't

[John-Edward Heath]:

you? And the victim mentality in me wanted to be like, cause I got a messed

[John-Edward Heath]:

up leg, but I didn't, you know, it was just like a conversation. So when

[John-Edward Heath]:

the amputation got approved, I had 30 days to get everything ready. You

[John-Edward Heath]:

get what I'm saying? And in that timeframe, I had given up me, I had

[John-Edward Heath]:

given up alcohol. I had given up animal products, right? So it was

[John-Edward Heath]:

just the way things occurred. It was just way too orchestrated where it was

[John-Edward Heath]:

like amputation happened in the hospital during COVID. I'm chilling,

[John-Edward Heath]:

man. I just want to cramp. Two places that ginger ale hits different,

[John-Edward Heath]:

hospitals and airplanes don't at me. All right, that's all I wanted.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And you know, and Devin was sitting

[Coach D]:

Yeah.

[John-Edward Heath]:

there, man. Devin and my best friend who passed away in 2018, his mom

[John-Edward Heath]:

flew in from South Carolina and she also took care of me. And it was just,

[John-Edward Heath]:

Devin is probably one of the most talented athletes. but honestly one

[John-Edward Heath]:

of the best humans I've ever had the privilege of being friends with.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And Devin was the reason that it was like, okay, I'm witnessing you.

[John-Edward Heath]:

You don't have a lot of friends. You're very reserved. You're very

[John-Edward Heath]:

to yourself. You know, you train and you play video games. I used

[John-Edward Heath]:

to give him crap cause he never wanted to go out with me. And I learned

[John-Edward Heath]:

a lot from him. And that was the thing was like, when we went into this,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I just had a two time Olympian and You know, at the time he wasn't with the

[John-Edward Heath]:

Eagles, but I had an Olympian with me training for Tokyo and it was just,

[John-Edward Heath]:

what's the next step? How do we get you to a platform? And then I did

[John-Edward Heath]:

a one-legged power clean, six days post amputation that went viral on

[John-Edward Heath]:

social media, and that's what opened up the door, you know, that's what

[John-Edward Heath]:

opened up the door and again, orchestrated because Sonny Webster,

[John-Edward Heath]:

who's a big Olympic weightlifter in in the social media space and in the Olympic

[John-Edward Heath]:

weightlifting world. He was the one who reshared my video. That was

[John-Edward Heath]:

my coach. And that's what we're viral in the UK, right? Then Alex Smith,

[John-Edward Heath]:

Alex Smith had a gruesome injury. We connected through hanger clinic

[John-Edward Heath]:

and Kenny Maine and all this other stuff. So Kenny Maine or Alex Smith,

[John-Edward Heath]:

I called that, I messaged Alex Smith before my amputation and Alex Smith

[John-Edward Heath]:

said, this is what's holding you back. No average person can sit here and

[John-Edward Heath]:

tell you these, and I'm not name dropping, I'm just letting you know,

[John-Edward Heath]:

like these are the people that, at the time, these were the people in

[John-Edward Heath]:

my circle. These were the people who made it like possible. And then

[John-Edward Heath]:

I just remember starting a GoFundMe to help me get to Paris and Derek

[John-Edward Heath]:

Holland, pitcher for the Rangers donated, right? Very good friend of

[John-Edward Heath]:

mine, Alex Smith donated. And it was just all of these pro athletes that

[John-Edward Heath]:

just really started the stuff. It went by so fast that like to think

[John-Edward Heath]:

you'd have thought I'd been doing this my whole life. And I'm not

[Coach D]:

Mmm.

[John-Edward Heath]:

saying that in an arrogant manner. I'm just saying like I'm really well

[John-Edward Heath]:

known in a lot of spaces that the average person is not known in. You

[John-Edward Heath]:

met me as the first amputee to train at Collective. I'm the first and only

[John-Edward Heath]:

amputee to train there. So this is God's plan, man. I don't I don't

[John-Edward Heath]:

need to prove to anybody why I belong. As much as I try my hardest not to live in the past,

[John-Edward Heath]:

this was, what's meant for you cannot be taken.

[Coach D]:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I love that. Oh, also, what's meant for you will not pass you by as

[Coach D]:

long as you're doing the work and taking the action necessary

[John-Edward Heath]:

Right.

[Coach D]:

when it comes. And that's you're right in the middle of that right now. So you

[Coach D]:

and I had a conversation the other day. You told me about all these things you

[Coach D]:

have going on. Let's connect that back to when you told that lady, remember,

[Coach D]:

you're going to see me, you know, doing a pro sport. You're going to see me on

[Coach D]:

the news. You're going to see me on TV, whatever. What it would. Let's just

[Coach D]:

give everybody a list of all the things you have coming up now.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Oh man. So I am, I'm racing in Oklahoma city. That'll be my last meet for

[John-Edward Heath]:

the season. And then here's the thing is in this, in this journey, there's

[John-Edward Heath]:

been so much adversity that I could have easily given up in two years.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I got kicked off my team. So I'm here in Claremont Florida for no reason

[John-Edward Heath]:

because I'm no longer on the team. In the midst of that, every time

[John-Edward Heath]:

it was like, it's never been, I've got the next meet. It's how am I

[John-Edward Heath]:

going to pay for the next meet? I'm not sponsored. Right? So that like,

[John-Edward Heath]:

and that's what people need to understand. Like it's just been, I

[John-Edward Heath]:

went from Maryland to Texas. Texas did not play out, moved to Ohio. Ohio

[John-Edward Heath]:

did not plan out, moved to Florida. I'm in the midst of moving to Austin.

[John-Edward Heath]:

This is all in two years. And in those, and in, and in that, right. Like

[John-Edward Heath]:

I got to train next to Joe burrow in Ohio, Khalid Kareem. who is literally

[John-Edward Heath]:

my best friend, little brother, plays defensive end for the Colts.

[John-Edward Heath]:

You know, man, Florida, here, I've met so many Olympians, so many different

[John-Edward Heath]:

CrossFit athletes and business owners and other amputees that wanna be like

[John-Edward Heath]:

me, right? So there's a lot that happened in two years. So I've got

[John-Edward Heath]:

Oklahoma City coming up. I didn't get to make internationals because

[John-Edward Heath]:

I had to make an adult decision with everything. I got kicked off

[John-Edward Heath]:

the team. 20 days post national or pre nationals. What did I do? I

[John-Edward Heath]:

went to collective and I trained three weeks because my goal is to

[John-Edward Heath]:

make the Paralympic team this year. Would it have been great to be on

[John-Edward Heath]:

the world team and have been to Paris 100% but was meant to be yours

[John-Edward Heath]:

cannot be taken. And it was just not in my cards to go to world. What

[John-Edward Heath]:

did I do? I went to Austin and in three weeks, the amount of people that

[John-Edward Heath]:

I met, bro, everywhere I went, they were like, how do you? other and

[John-Edward Heath]:

you know blah it was just the craziness right so ending the season and

[John-Edward Heath]:

then I jump into CrossFit which is you know I'm competing in Australia

[John-Edward Heath]:

I'm training in Dubai I'm training in Iceland I've got speaking engagements

[John-Edward Heath]:

coming up I've got photo shoots I've got two magazines that want to

[John-Edward Heath]:

show my story I've got I've got another podcast in like two hours

[John-Edward Heath]:

after this right so it's It's a lot. And what people also need to know

[John-Edward Heath]:

is I wasn't prepared for this because after service, I moved to Europe.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I was trying to disappear. I was trying to go ghost. I wanted to take

[John-Edward Heath]:

care of John and John only and who was John going to be in here? We're

[John-Edward Heath]:

sitting in 2023 where I'm letting you know, like I don't have room to

[John-Edward Heath]:

breathe. I don't, I go to red carpet events. I, you know, I get to

[John-Edward Heath]:

do a lot of stuff for the adaptive community and the disabled community.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Is it stressful? Yeah, man, I don't want people in my business, but

[John-Edward Heath]:

I feel like I was put in this position to make a difference. And that's

[John-Edward Heath]:

sense of purpose. I think that's what we've lost. Men have lost a sense

[John-Edward Heath]:

of purpose. Social media is telling you a bunch of BS that what you

[John-Edward Heath]:

think is happiness and what it is that you need to pursue. I feel

[John-Edward Heath]:

like the common thing that men are supposed to pursue these days are all

[John-Edward Heath]:

these BBLs and lip fillers and all of this artificial stuff. But if you

[John-Edward Heath]:

come... But if you're a little too fat, right, like you're not good

[John-Edward Heath]:

enough for a 10 or whatever you call it. So I think that it's a double

[John-Edward Heath]:

standard.

[Coach D]:

So I picked up on two key things here, right? You mentioned how it's a lot going

[Coach D]:

on right now and it's gonna be a little overwhelming because you weren't prepared

[Coach D]:

for this. And the

[John-Edward Heath]:

Yeah.

[Coach D]:

other part saying that, you know, the universe kind of lined up with everything.

[Coach D]:

So in the middle of all this, a genuine question from man to man, heart to heart, how

[Coach D]:

are you doing with everything?

[John-Edward Heath]:

I appreciate you asking. The average person doesn't ask me because I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

the strong person, right? I'm supposed to be everyone's beacon of hope.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I'm doing well. I will tell you, I went into the darkest place of

[John-Edward Heath]:

my life in November. I had an incident happen with the media and some

[John-Edward Heath]:

veterans that I served with. But you know, my faith kept me aligned.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I honestly think I right now am in a phase in my life where I've gotten

[John-Edward Heath]:

comfortable being by myself, which is a blessing. I used to always need

[John-Edward Heath]:

to do stuff with people. I always needed to go out. And I pay a lot

[John-Edward Heath]:

of tribute to that, to a lot of the men in my life that hold me accountable.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I just told you Khalid Karim is, you know, he plays for the Colts,

[John-Edward Heath]:

but he's not an NFL player to me. That's my best friend. That's like my

[John-Edward Heath]:

little brother. And we hold each other accountable. Devon Allen. I

[John-Edward Heath]:

learned a lot from him. He goes to practice, he comes home. He's at

[John-Edward Heath]:

home, he's eating healthy, he's playing video games. It's a constant thing.

[John-Edward Heath]:

So when you hear these things on social media that say, tell me who

[John-Edward Heath]:

your friends are and I'll tell you who you are, or surround yourself

[John-Edward Heath]:

around five billionaires and you could be the sixth, I genuinely believe

[John-Edward Heath]:

that. Do I have mental health issues? Absolutely. And that's what

[John-Edward Heath]:

pisses me off about social media. Right now we're in Pride Month. You

[John-Edward Heath]:

got all these people telling you to be yourself. 80% of these people aren't

[John-Edward Heath]:

even living their truth. But they're taking that million dollar picture,

[John-Edward Heath]:

they might not even be happy. You've got celebrities posting about

[John-Edward Heath]:

mental health, oh I donated $100,000 to the mental health suicide prevention

[John-Edward Heath]:

line. What did you do after that? Nobody talks about, you don't just go

[John-Edward Heath]:

through things and then you heal and then that's it. Nobody talks about

[John-Edward Heath]:

how is it that if you're trying to get a six pack, you're meal prepped.

[John-Edward Heath]:

If you're trying to get biceps, you go to the gym, right? If you're

[John-Edward Heath]:

trying to be spiritual healthily, you go to church, you go to Bible

[John-Edward Heath]:

study. Why does nobody emphasize on mental health? Why does nobody

[John-Edward Heath]:

talk about the days that you wake up from depression, like sad? There

[John-Edward Heath]:

are days that I'll text people and I'll be like, how you doing? I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

sad, why? I don't know, I shouldn't have a reason to tell, I shouldn't

[John-Edward Heath]:

have a reason to be sad. I wake up mad, I wake up moody. People don't

[John-Edward Heath]:

talk about these things. I do. I am transparent with everything. Actual

[John-Edward Heath]:

mental health. I actually live mental health every day and every day

[John-Edward Heath]:

is showing up and my goal is just showing up better than yesterday. It's

[John-Edward Heath]:

not about the five-year plan. It's not about how am I going to make

[John-Edward Heath]:

this next million dollars, right? It's how are you showing up today? How

[John-Edward Heath]:

did you give back to society? Were you true to yourself? Or did you sell

[John-Edward Heath]:

your soul for a contract? Did you sell your soul for your peace? Did

[John-Edward Heath]:

you sell your soul for, because here's the thing that we get twisted.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Every single person that is able to pay rent, not have to worry about

[John-Edward Heath]:

getting food, can pay their water, can buy a shirt if they like it, whether

[John-Edward Heath]:

it's one shirt. That's being rich, man. Do the math in how much we

[John-Edward Heath]:

spend in rent, utilities, your car note, your insurance. If all of that

[John-Edward Heath]:

is covered, you're rich, man. Just because you ain't got the commas

[John-Edward Heath]:

in the bank account doesn't mean you get to be unhappy. I've seen homeless

[John-Edward Heath]:

people feeding their dogs, man, with more happiness than the average human

[John-Edward Heath]:

in 2023. And I think we've lost our sense of what is it that makes you

[John-Edward Heath]:

happy? Why? Because the Kardashians are telling you, you gotta look

[John-Edward Heath]:

a certain type of way, so our women are trying to look like them.

[John-Edward Heath]:

when in reality the average person doesn't look like that. Then you have

[John-Edward Heath]:

guys like Jake Paul telling the average man that they need to do X, Y,

[John-Edward Heath]:

and Z to be, you know, and then you have society telling you that

[John-Edward Heath]:

if you go to the gym, you're arrogant and you're, you know, self-centered

[John-Edward Heath]:

and you're conceited because of the way you look. Man, I'm not about that.

[John-Edward Heath]:

And

[Coach D]:

Yeah.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I go to the gym because I have a passion for fitness. I love slinging

[John-Edward Heath]:

weight. I love sprinting. I love being active. I've been active for almost

[John-Edward Heath]:

17 years of my life now. It's not gonna stop. The other thing is people

[John-Edward Heath]:

don't really understand. I tell the average disabled person, you need

[John-Edward Heath]:

to go to the gym because you just made your life harder by being an

[John-Edward Heath]:

amputee. So CrossFit, Adaptive CrossFit isn't for you to be the most competitive

[John-Edward Heath]:

person. Adaptive CrossFit is teaching people that if you fall off a wheelchair,

[John-Edward Heath]:

you can get back up. Adaptive CrossFit is

[Coach D]:

powerful.

[John-Edward Heath]:

giving me a stronger core. so I can stand in the bathroom while I shower

[John-Edward Heath]:

because I'm missing a whole ass leg. And it's the same thing that I talk

[John-Edward Heath]:

to people. People don't like to train with, oh, you're a professional

[John-Edward Heath]:

athlete. Oh, you're stronger than me. Man, if this is your 100%, that's

[John-Edward Heath]:

all I need from you. I tell older folks, I'm not asking you to be

[John-Edward Heath]:

an Olympian. I'm not asking you to go to the gym for three hours like I

[John-Edward Heath]:

do. What I'm asking you is to get mobile and get healthy because I'm

[John-Edward Heath]:

pretty sure you have grandchildren or you have kids that you would like to see.

[John-Edward Heath]:

and not have to worry about being in the hospital or being stuck on a couch

[John-Edward Heath]:

or being stuck in a wheelchair. Like these are things that people don't consider,

[John-Edward Heath]:

but going to the gym is toxic.

[Coach D]:

Mm. Man. So there's so much here and a lot has opened up that really shares

[Coach D]:

like your heart, your mindset that's going to really serve a lot of people. Your

[Coach D]:

story is just beginning, right? We go back and look at, right, the path that was,

[Coach D]:

you know, kind of chosen for you through childhood and then what you choose,

[Coach D]:

chose to do when you started being able to make adult decisions, going into the

[Coach D]:

military. establishing a certain mindset of structure and accountability in

[Coach D]:

the military, bringing that out into the real world after, after having this, this

[Coach D]:

traumatic situation with the leg, not falling into a victim mindset, going through

[Coach D]:

14 surgeries, finally getting the, the amputation, then saying, you know what,

[Coach D]:

I'm going to be a professional athlete. I'm not sponsored. I'm gonna find a way to

[Coach D]:

pay for this stuff. I'm gonna move here, move here, move here. Within two years,

[Coach D]:

you've done so much. And now your voice is starting to be heard a lot more because

[Coach D]:

you have a lot to speak on that is actually beneficial to not only men, but anybody

[Coach D]:

who's willing to understand how the power of your mindset and not staying so attached

[Coach D]:

to the story as your identity can really make a huge difference. And so I just

[Coach D]:

wanna appreciate you for the way that you're showing up. I can feel right now,

[Coach D]:

like you're really at the kind of this beginning portion of this ride that's

[Coach D]:

about to accelerate.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Oof. Yeah. Ha

[Coach D]:

And

[John-Edward Heath]:

ha

[Coach D]:

I

[John-Edward Heath]:

ha!

[Coach D]:

can, I feel that for you. So yeah, I appreciate you taking the time to be here.

[Coach D]:

And I just want to ask you this question to close it out. What does it mean to you to

[Coach D]:

be a committed man?

[John-Edward Heath]:

What does it mean to me to be a committed man? I think being a committed

[John-Edward Heath]:

man for myself is honestly just being a hundred with what you say. A lot

[John-Edward Heath]:

of people say one thing and their actions are different. I see this

[John-Edward Heath]:

a lot in the influencer world where they take these sponsorships and

[John-Edward Heath]:

not really using the product or... You have people telling you that they're

[John-Edward Heath]:

sober, but they're not really sober, they're still in the party at

[John-Edward Heath]:

the weekends, but they're doing it for whatever reason. Committed to

[John-Edward Heath]:

me is I'm committed to everything I'm doing in the most authentic

[John-Edward Heath]:

manner. I'm committed to my community, whether it's my church community,

[John-Edward Heath]:

whether it's my adoptive community, adoptive kids, foster kids, the

[John-Edward Heath]:

disabled community, there's just so much commitment. I'm accountable, man.

[John-Edward Heath]:

I never held myself accountable back in the day. I'm accountable now. I don't

[John-Edward Heath]:

need a book or a school or society to tell me what box I need to fit

[John-Edward Heath]:

in. Committed to me is that if I were to die tomorrow, I did everything

[John-Edward Heath]:

in my power to live a fulfilled life. And I did everything in my life to give

[John-Edward Heath]:

back when I could.

[Coach D]:

I'm happy to know you and I'm happy to collaborate on some things down the road.

[Coach D]:

And I'm glad we got to spend this time together. And I know something you shared

[Coach D]:

in this podcast is going to serve a man who's listening to us. So thank you again

[Coach D]:

for the way you're showing up.

[John-Edward Heath]:

Yes sir, thank you for having me man.

[Coach D]:

Yes, sir. I appreciate you being on. And we'll see y'all on the next episode.

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Donovan Owens

After being in leadership positions and doing lifestyle coaching for over 20 years, I had a calling to turn my attention toward reigniting commitment in men. Us men have a deep desire to live as the highest versions of ourselves, while being loved, trusted and respected. I've created a lifestyle operating system that allows men to show up as the greatest version of themselves and live with unrecognizable excellence.